More Than Half of People Leaving SF Say They’ll Probably Come Back, In Small Chronicle Sampling

The last few months have been filled with photos of U-Haul trucks on social media and stories like this one about rents dropping due to a mass exodus from San Francisco. Setting aside the obvious trend that pandemics and remote-working options tend to make some people flee dense cities, we should probably be taking the long view that the things that have made San Francisco a desirable place for many to be for decades are either not gone or are likely to come back in time. And therefore not all the people fleeing are necessarily gone for good.

Also, as in other great cities, the people who leave just make room for fresh blood, and housing markets sort themselves out barring total earthquake/fire/nuclear Armageddon.

That’s the take that the Chronicle now has following multiple stories there and elsewhere suggesting the opposite. (SFGate also had a so-called “exodus reporter” who says she’s been covering the out-migration of San Franciscans for two years, and she announced in June that she’s leaving herself.) The paper says it put out a call for stories from Bay Area residents fleeing for cheaper or less-dense places, and “more than half” of the 20 people who wrote in suggested that they’d potentially move back here after the pandemic is over.

Is the current exodus exponentially huger than the usual summer outflow? And by what magnitude? That’s hard to say.

“Precise information about population shifts in the Bay Area may not be available until after the release of 2020 census data,” the Chronicle says. “But more than fifty people responded [to our call for move-out stories]… and reports from real estate and moving companies indicate a transformative shift, even if it cannot be measured precisely.”

The reasons people cite for moving are pretty familiar to anyone aged 23 to 45 who’s lived in a city: there’s a new kid to worry about and this isn’t really a city built for kids; there’s an opportunity to work remotely and live with your parents for a while to save on rent (or you’re broke and unemployed and need to move back in); or you’ve just gotten to a point where your tiny apartment isn’t cutting it and the pandemic has pushed you to realize that there are other places you could live and have more space.

The pandemic has also accelerated people’s previously discussed plans to leave — for kid reasons, or others — because if you were leaving at some point anyway, and you’re working remotely anyway, why keep paying SF rent while you wait for the restaurants and bars and theaters and museums to reopen? As 16-year Mission District resident Michelle Lai tells the Chron, “All the things that we love about the city are just gone right now.”

There will always be reasons to love San Francisco and reasons to complain about what it’s become or how it used to be better. This is the nature of a city. People have been declaring New York dead too, and then Jerry Seinfeld wrote an op-ed that said it’s all lies, and people cheered. (And then people told Jerry to fuck off on Twitter too.)

But no, some will say. This time is different. It’s a pandemic. And San Francisco has been sucking for years and it’s full of needles and homeless people and tech bros bah!

What if a (minor) tech exodus and some rent stabilization and a new generation of twenty-something dreamers moves in and makes SF more diverse, kinder, and more vibrant than it’s been in years? Sure maybe your coworker or friend from college has moved back to St. Louis and says the food’s great there too. But San Francisco will still be this gorgeous, problematic, temperamental gem with incredible seafood and cocktails, and those kinds of places are pretty hard to kill.

Related: Report Shows Record Increase in San Francisco Real Estate Listings as People Continue Moving to More Affordable Cities

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San Francisco Housing Forecast 2021: Will Falling Demand Hurt Prices?

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The housing market forecast for San Francisco suggests that home prices could weaken through 2020 and into 2021. They might even take a downturn. This is largely due to a sharp increase in listings, as sellers begin to outnumber buyers within the city.

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Some are suggesting there’s a kind of “exodus” taking place, as COVID-conscious residents leave the crowded city for more suburban housing markets.

It’s too early to declare such a trend, at least from a data standpoint. But there’s no denying the shift that’s taking place within the local real estate market.

Here are the latest trends and forecasts for the San Francisco housing market through 2020 and into 2021.

A Slowdown in the San Francisco Housing Market?

Properties are taking longer to sell in San Francisco, due to a reduction in demand. Home prices are starting to show weakness. And real estate listings appear to be piling up in the city.

Those are the key takeaways from the latest San Francisco housing market forecasts and reports, as of late summer 2020.

Geography note: This story pertains to the city and county of San Francisco, as opposed to the broader S.F. Bay Area. That’s a key distinction, because the city itself is experiencing very different market trends than the rest of the Bay Area. For instance, active real estate listings are way down across most of the Bay Area, while they’ve actually risen within San Francisco County.

Over the past few months, home sales and prices have risen steadily in most parts of the Bay Area. It’s an active time for home buyers. In a sense, the housing market is behaving as if the COVID-19 pandemic never even happened.

According to a recent update from the California Association of Realtors, published earlier this week, the median price for existing homes across the Bay Area rose 18.7% from August 2019 to August 2020. Subregions like Marin and Napa posted gains over 20%.

Bay Area home sales, meanwhile, rose by 10.8% during that same 12-month period. This shows there is still strong demand among buyers, despite COVID-19.

But when you drill down to the San Francisco real estate market in particular, it’s a different story. The median price for existing single-family homes rose by 3.8% year over year, and basically flatlined from July to August of this year. Sales activity remains strong in San Francisco, as of August 2020. But some forecasts predict a slowdown in the months ahead.

Real Estate Listings Way Up in 2020

Here’s the most telling data point from the C.A.R. report mentioned above. Active real estate listings within San Francisco County increased by a whopping 45% over the past year or so.

Most other cities and counties in the region have experienced a sharp decline in the number of active listings.

To quote the September 17 C.A.R. report:

“Forty-nine of the 51 counties reported by C.A.R. experienced year-over-year declines in active listings in August. Merced fell the most with a decline of 70.4 percent from a year ago. San Francisco (45.5%) and San Mateo (2.9%) were the only counties in California with an increase in active listings.”

Similarly, a September 2020 press release from the national real estate brokerage Redfin stated the following:

“Only two of the 85 largest metros tracked by Redfin posted a year-over-year increase in the count of seasonally-adjusted active listings of homes for sale: San Francisco (+75%) and New York City (+10%). The sudden expansion of work-from-home policies due to the pandemic has led many people to flee these cities, two of the country’s most expensive housing markets.”

An August report from Zillow pointed to a “flood of new listings” within the San Francisco housing market.

Granted, this doesn’t necessarily spell doom and gloom for the San Francisco housing market in 2021. But it does suggest that a new trend is taking place, one that could put downward pressure on home prices as we close out 2020 and move into next year.

Demand Shifting from Cities to Suburbs

Real estate listings seem to be piling up within the San Francisco housing market. That might be a minor issue, if home-buyer demand returns to balance things out again.

But some real estate forecasts for San Francisco (and other major cities) suggest that an urban-to-suburban shift could continue through this year and into next. That could boost demand for homes within suburban and rural markets, while reducing demand in the urban centers.

According to a recent statement from Redfin CEO Glenn Kelman:

“Since March 15, searches for homes and towns with population under 50,000 people increased 71% …. more people will leave San Francisco, New York, and even Seattle, some for nearby towns like Sacramento and Tacoma that are close enough to support a weekly office visit…”

Related: Is Sacramento the hot market of 2021?

Negative Home-Price Forecast for San Francisco, Going into 2021

The research team at Zillow recently offered a negative home-price forecast for the San Francisco housing market, going into 2021. They expect prices to dip slightly between now and this month next year.

In mid-September 2020, the group wrote: “San Francisco home values have gone up 3.0% over the past year and Zillow predicts they will fall -2.3% within the next year.”

Zillow also compared the median list price for homes within the city itself and the broader Bay Area. And there’s a stark contrast. In late summer 2020, the median list price in San Francisco was around $1,108 per square foot. That was more than double the median for the broader San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward metropolitan area, which came in at $499 per square foot.

And therein lies the core issue that will affect this real estate market over the next year or two:

If workers no longer have to live in San Francisco for their jobs — if they’re given the freedom to work remotely and live wherever they choose — why would they pay a premium to live in a city where social distancing is a challenge?

Disclaimer: This story includes forecasts for the San Francisco real estate market through 2020 and into 2021. Economic and housing-related predictions are the equivalent of an educated guess and should be treated as such. HBI makes no claims or assertions about future housing trends.

Article source: http://www.homebuyinginstitute.com/news/will-falling-demand-hurt-prices-san-francisco/

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Bay Area home prices climb on strong demand, low supply

Tight inventory and unstoppable buyers ignoring the economic drag of the Covid pandemic  pushed Bay Area median home prices to near-record levels in July.

Median home prices for single family homes in the Bay Area rose 8.6 percent from last year, led by soaring prices in Contra Costa and San Mateo counties. The median sale price for an existing single family home in the nine county region in July was $950,000, according to real estate data firm DQNews, pushing highs not seen since early 2018.

Current market prices have been driven higher by wealthy buyers snapping up more high-end homes, with relatively fewer, lower-priced starter homes selling, agents and economists say.

“It’s just a hot market,” said CoreLogic economist Selma Hepp. Buyers flocked to single family homes, seeking more space. Hepp attributed some of the growth in median prices to a pick up in sales of Bay Area homes going for more than $3 million.

The Bay Area remains one of the strongest real estate markets in the nation, shrugging off economic uncertainty as high-paid tech professionals have benefited from record stock prices and low interest rates. Mortgage rates for a standard, 30-year home loan have sunk below 3 percent, according to Freddie Mac, giving buyers extra purchasing power.

The virus depressed overall Bay Area transactions in the spring with fewer sellers willing to risk home tours. But buyers looking to the suburbs were aggressive shoppers in July, bidding up prices on the Peninsula and in the East Bay.

ee53d HOMES July 090120 01 Bay Area home prices climb on strong demand, low supplyYear-over-year prices surged in July, according to DQNews and CoreLogic data from Bay Area counties: median sale prices for resale homes jumped 16.7 percent to $735,000 in Contra Costa, 10.3 percent to $1.6 million in San Mateo, 8.2 percent to $973,500 in Alameda, 5.7 percent to $1.3 million in Santa Clara, and 2.7 percent to $1.59 million in San Francisco.

Suburban and rural Bay Area enclaves also saw dramatic growth from the previous July. Single family home prices jumped 25 percent in Marin County to $1.5 million, rose 15 percent in Sonoma County to $690,000, and increased 11.3 percent to $735,000 in Napa County.

Condo sales even rebounded, with the Bay Area median sale price climbing 8.3 percent from the previous July to $725,000.

Home-buying restrictions enacted in March eliminated open houses and limited the number of prospective buyers in a home, helping to lower sales in the traditional spring buying season. Buyers appeared to postpone purchases into the summer — with Bay Area home sales in July climbing 10 percent from the previous year. “Spring demand has shifted to the summer,” Hepp said.

Agents say buyers are looking for more room — extra bedrooms, yards and personal space as work-from-home becomes the norm for Bay Area professionals. Pools are becoming popular with families.

East Bay agent Matt Rubenstein said he’s seen professional couples looking to move from San Francisco to the East Bay for the added space. Walnut Creek and Pleasanton have drawn tech workers and super-charged the housing market.

Aggressive buyers are bidding up prices, waiving contingencies and making preemptive offers. Rubenstein said that’s unusual in Contra Costa County. “I’ve seen some ridiculous offers,” he said.

Cupertino agent Alan Wang also has noticed growing demand for East Bay communities. He’s seen homes in Pleasanton and Dublin book eight showings an hour for starter homes listed for around $1.3 million. “It’s been extremely busy,” Wang said. “You would have thought it would have slowed down.”

The shoppers are overwhelmingly tech professionals with two-income families. “Tech is one of those unique industries,” Wang said. “It’s a little strange, for sure.”

Caroline Dinsmore, an agent in Burlingame, sees three major drivers in the market: people leaving San Francisco for more space; retirees deciding to leave for safer, rural retreats; and families looking to upgrade.

The common thread, she said, is “people wanting more space.”


Article source: https://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-home-prices-climb-on-strong-demand-low-supply

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Zillow: San Jose, San Francisco Home Prices Jump While Rental Market Continues To Drop

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — Home prices in the 50 largest markets in the U.S. have made the biggest monthly jump in seven years, with the biggest spike in the San Jose and San Francisco metro areas, according to the latest report from real estate database firm Zillow.

The Seattle-based company’s August Real Estate Market Report shows the typical home value at $256,663, up 0.7% from July and buoyed by lack of housing inventory and strong demand from buyers. Values were up in 48 of the 50 largest markets.

In the San Jose metro, however, the typical home value last month was $1,224,366, up 2.1% month over month and a whopping 10.3% year over year. In the San Francisco metro, the typical home value in August was $1,127,066, up 0.8% month over month and 2.7% year over year, the report said.

Meanwhile, rent prices in the Bay Area continued to tumble, with a typical one-bedroom rental in San Jose metro dropping 3.8% from last year to $3,219. In San Francisco metro, rental prices are down 4% from last year to $3,167, acccording to the report. Before the pandemic in February, rents were up in San Jose and San Francisco 3.5% and 2.4% year over year, respectively.

Nationwide, August median rents fell 0.3% from July to $1,771 – the largest monthly decrease since 2017, with rents falling most dramatically in San Jose, San Francisco, New York/Newark and Boston.

For homes on the market, Zillow reported they typically went under contract after 14 days, which is 14 days faster than at this time in 2019.

“American home shoppers faced an historic shortage of listings to choose from this summer, and that scarcity is now reflected in rapidly appreciating home values after a sluggish start to the home shopping season this spring,” said Zillow economist Jeff Tucker in a press release. “Builders are racing to catch up with demand, and rising prices should encourage more potential sellers to come off the sidelines and list. Still, the shortage of inventory should keep housing markets unusually tilted in sellers’ favor this autumn.”

The report stated that looking forward, upward price pressure would likely continue through the fall because of the inventory deficit while demand would hold steady, with buyers pulling the trigger after delaying purchases from earlier this spring and summer.

For renters, the outlook was for more price relief, especially in the Bay Area and New York metro area.

“Rental demand has been battered by still-elevated unemployment as well as some renters opting out of expensive markets with their ability to work remotely during the pandemic,” said Tucker. “The rental market may also be feeling an early gust of demographic headwinds, as the bumper crop of Millennials in their early 30s begin making the leap to homeownership.”

Article source: https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/09/18/zillow-san-jose-san-francisco-home-prices-jump-while-rental-market-continues-to-drop/

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‘Just mind-blowing’: Despite fires and virus, Bay Area home prices hit record

Neither the coronavirus nor the wildfires put much of a damper on Bay Area real estate in August, as the median price of an existing single-family home hit a record high of $1,068,000, according to a California Association of Realtors report issued Thursday.

The median price rose 1.7% from July (which tied a previous record) and a robust 18.7% from August of last year. The number of homes sold in August was up 10.8% from last August but down 6.3% from July. The report excludes condominiums, newly constructed homes and properties not advertised on a Multiple Listing Service.

Sales are a lagging indicator because it typically takes about a month for deals to close. Last month’s sales and prices mostly reflect deals that were entered into before major wildfires broke out in and around the Bay Area on Aug. 17 and 18. For a more up-to-date picture, experts look at the number of sellers accepting offers each week. That data suggest the fires did dampen activity, but only for about two weeks, and mostly in areas closest to the fires.

Between the first and second half of August, the number of listings going into contract declined only 3% in the nine Bay Area counties plus Santa Cruz and Monterey counties. Four counties, however, saw double-digit declines — Santa Cruz (29%), Sonoma (18%), Monterey (11%) and Napa (10%), according to Patrick Carlisle, chief market analyst with the Compass real estate firm.

By the first two weeks of September, however, the number of sellers accepting offers across the region was essentially back to where it was in the first two weeks of August.

“When the fires broke out because of the lightning strikes, our market took a dip, it was off for probably two weeks,” said Rick Laws, a regional vice president with Compass in Santa Rosa. But then the number of homes going into contract in Sonoma County rebounded. “That surprised me. I didn’t think people would say, ‘Let’s come up and look at properties’ (when) you can’t even see the properties.”

Meanwhile, a profound shift in the market that started in June, after the Bay Area climbed out of a major downturn in April and May, continued into August. Buyers gravitated away from San Francisco, particularly high-rise condos, in search of larger homes with more land, especially in Marin, Sonoma and Napa counties.

Santa Cruz and Monterey counties have also seen an influx of buyers from Silicon Valley looking for a more rural lifestyle and somewhat cheaper homes, said Morgan Lukina, president of the Santa Cruz County Association of Realtors. The market will become more challenging, since the CZU fires destroyed 925 homes, mostly in Santa Cruz County. “Those were some of our most affordable homes,” she added.

The shifts in demand are a direct result of the pandemic. As people become less tethered to their offices and schools, they want more space for work and play. Unable to travel, many people who have the means are buying second homes with pools in resort-like areas.

“Expensive second homes are very much in demand, usually in less populated areas (of Sonoma County) like Healdsburg, Sebastopol and the Sonoma Valley,” Laws said.

The same thing is happening in other markets such as Lake Tahoe, Aspen, Colo., and the Hamptons in New York, said Maurice Tegelaar, a Compass agent in Sonoma.

The only Bay Area market that saw a decline in luxury-home sales between this summer and last summer was luxury San Francisco condos, where sales were down 19%. Luxury home sales were up 176% in Sonoma County, 116% in Contra Costa, and 109% in Marin, according to Carlisle.

 ‘Just mind blowing’: Despite fires and virus, Bay Area home prices hit record

The median price is the point where half of homes sold for more and half for less. Median prices can go up because homes in general are appreciating, because there has been a shift in sales from lower-priced to higher-priced homes, or both.

On a year-over-year basis, median prices were up in every Bay Area county last month. The strongest were Napa and Marin, where median prices were up 24% and 23%, respectively, and sales were up 52.2% and 37.8%.

In San Francisco, sales were up 28.9% and prices were up 3.8%, but remember this report excludes condominiums, which make up a much larger percentage of sales in San Francisco than other counties and are much weaker than single-family homes.

“The condo segment is by far the weakest in the Bay Area, and within the condo market, the weakest is South of Market and the Van Ness, Market Street corridor,” Carlisle said. Condos in some areas, such as Noe Valley and Eureka Valley, that have a lot of two- and three-unit buildings with decks or a yard, are holding up. “Where the condo market has really been hammered is the high-rises” with no separate entrance or private outside space, he said.

The number of active listings with a price cut in San Francisco has soared in recent months, from 148 in May to 428 in August. About 78% of the price cuts were on condos, the rest on single-family homes. The number of San Francisco condos for sale is the highest in at least 10 years. That “should put downward pressure on condo prices, but it’s not showing up in any drastic form yet,” Carlisle said.

On new condos, developers are slow to cut prices, preferring to offer incentives such as upgraded finishes or six months of homeowners association dues.

Millennials Ally Sillins and her husband, Santosh Vadlamani, found the San Francisco market to be quite competitive, at least in their target areas. Both work for a large technology company in Silicon Valley, but the pandemic and their ability to work from home, perhaps for an extended period, didn’t affect their decision to buy in San Francisco. Many of their friends working in technology have fled the city, but “I genuinely love San Francisco,” Sillins said. Growing up in Atlanta, she used to visit an aunt and cousin in San Francisco “and I thought they were so cool. I thought San Francisco was this dream.”

They made their first offer in May, on a tenants-in-common unit in Duboce Triangle. It had three offers and the winning bid was $200,000 over the asking price. In June, they bid on a TIC unit North of the Panhandle. “It had nine offers, ours was the lowest and we put in $50,000 over asking,” she said. “It was just mind-blowing.”

Finally, their agent heard about a TIC unit in North Beach that was in contract but likely to fall through because of a loan issue. Before it went back on the market, they offered a little over asking. It was accepted, and they closed in late August. Their Telegraph Hill unit is one of four spread across two buildings. While much of downtown looks like a ghost town, “North Beach is happening now. People are probably having too much fun when they should be indoors,” Sillins said.

On the flip side, “just because a market is strong doesn’t mean people will buy anything,” Carlisle said. “In Wine Country, there is still a lot of inventory in the high end, although it’s selling three to four times faster” than last year.

Constance Kopriva just cut the price on an 18-acre property with a vintage four-bedroom farmhouse in Sonoma by $1 million, to $3.75 million. Kopriva, a mostly retired real estate agent, listed the property on Cassidy Ranch Road. She and her husband have owned it for almost 20 years but don’t live there currently. Their son makes wine, and they planned to plant vineyards and open a winery and tasting room on the property, but it took them four years to get the permit and now “we are having second and third thoughts,” she said.

The permit is good for two years, so they decided to list it for sale around Aug. 10. “Out-of-towners want luxury houses with pools. This is more for wine growers,” she said. The price reduction “is trying to find a sweet spot.”

Kathleen Pender is a San Francisco Chronicle columnist. Email: kpender@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @kathpender

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